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2009.09.25

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nereyda

was the contest supposed to be fat-free vegan? or healthy vegan?

[Doesn't matter. It was an incredibly unhealthy recipe, primarily due to the addition of a non-food: oil-ladden Earth Balance.]

... because it seems to me your mixing your arguments .... it's not apples to apples ... now, i'm not saying "earth balance" and the such IS healthy ... but just because it's vegan doesn't mean it has to be, potato chips are vegan and their not healthy ... but vegan most definately is, if it is compared to it's animal product counterpart ...

[Again, I don't agree. Too many vegans ignore the salt, fat, and sugar content of their "superior" food. It's important, imho, to point this out. Heart Disease, Obesity, Altzheimer's, et. al., are killing us in record numbers, too.]

so please don't put down all vegan food, just because it is not fat-free vegan food ...

[I'm not putting down all vegan food, I'm pointing out unhealthy vegan food.]

c'mon, i know you need someone/something to rant about on your blog, but don't take credit away from what deserves it ...

[BFD: the cook subsituted Earth Balance for butter.]

it is in my opinion a great thing to be able to have an occasional treat that is just as decadent as anything we ate in previous non-veg years ... and yes, you are right for most people "moderation" takes quite a lot of different shades in its definition depending on whom you ask ... but, still, don't take credit away where it is due ... don't put down all "veganized", jsut because it doesn't have the nutritional value of a salad!

[ONE fatty meal affects your circulatory system for over 6 hours, and this is measured fact, not theory. Over time, this can cause some real problems. Which snowflake causes the avalanche? IMHO, better to get rid of unhealthy taste addictions asap so as to truly enjoy the taste of really healthy vegan food.

Regardless, I appreciate all feedback. We'll have agree to disagree (and a salad with a oily dressing can also be unhealthy!! Mark]

vgpedlr

What a disaster! I am glad that desserts really do not appeal to me. I can always skip them, and never read that chapter in the cookbook. I also hate that word "moderation". It means nothing. Only if you have a clear view of the extremes, does moderation mean anything. Mostly, people use it as an excuse for their bad habits. I really like Campbell's explanation of the issue, since it is such vague concept it's always better to go with the science. Inevitable mistakes will take over any wiggle room.

[Well, again we're in agreement. I thought it absurd that a vegan blogger would excerpt the "casein" stuff from the Campbell interview and then promote a product he would be clearly against.

I agree with you on "moderation." What does it really mean? Love your use of the term "wiggle room."

Me? I keep going back to the "which snowflake causes the avalanche" idea... as you get older, you worry about these kinds of things!

Thanks for an interesting comment.... Mark]

Chaz

I really thank you, Soul Veggie, for uncovering a lot of the myths that are found in the vegan community. A lot of things are not what they seem, and you don't mind letting us know the truth. I don't even understand why if one considers themselves VEGAN, they would need a CHEESE or MEAT substitute. Mind you, I am all for BEAN substitutions, like the ones that are primarily made of organic rices, black beans, vegetables, etc, but all of that extra processing just to create something that looks like what you supposedly committed to erase from your diet is ridiculous. I agree, there is no such thing as moderation. At least not with me. Moderation is just a way to perpetuate your weakness and addiction for certain foods. I don't get why more people don't see it that way. If it isn't something I can eat with no regard, I won't touch it.

[Thanks for the kind words. As I've mentioned, I get a range of feedback, most positive, from those who think it's rude to point out the facts to those who've reversed their own heart disease or ameliorated MS symptoms by going low-fat vegan.

I do enjoy the occasional meat analog, but that's not too often (as they can be a bit high in salt and/or fat depending upon type). I do consciously try and not eat too much tofu too often, and have beans more than not.

Appreciate your note! Best regards, Mark]

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